January 18, 2018
By Tom Davidson
Bob Boyes is not only the State Forester of Ohio but also Deputy Director of the Ohio Department of Natural Resources. In these dual roles, he is responsible for the Division of Forestry, the Division of Wildlife, Mineral Resources Management, and the Office of Real Estate Land Management. With his extensive leadership experience, Bob offers some key advice in this episode on how to be an excellent leader, on the differences between being a frontline manager and an executive, and what he looks for in new hires. One of his observations is that once you’ve accepted that everybody is truly different, you can make everything work better.
[:55] A message from Leadership Nature.
[1:35] A quick intro about Bob’s background.
[3:00] How did Bob become interested in forestry?
[6:30] What was Bob’s transition like from forester to leader?
[11:05] What’s the difference between being a frontline manager and being an executive?
[13:35] What is Bob the proudest of in his career?
[16:40] How does Bob find new talent? What kind of forester does he look for?
[18:10] Bob discusses the generational differences in the talent pool and some of what he’s learned from the younger generations.
[22:15] What did Bob wish he had learned about leadership earlier in his career?
[28:15] Once you’ve accepted that everybody’s different, then everything else ends up making sense.
[31:35] What are some of the best ways new foresters can improve their skills?
[33:25] What kind of future challenges do foresters need to be thinking about and preparing for?
[35:40] Bob recommends reading Shackleton’s Way about leadership and The Sociopath Next Door to help better understand people.
[38:55] Bob shares some final words of wisdom: Always retain an open mind!
Mentioned in This Episode:
Shackleton’s Way: Leadership Lessons from the Great Antarctic Explorer, by Margot Morrell and Stephanie Capparell
The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout